Sunday, March 4, 2012

Jilala - Throb and Rasp


Finishing up my recent set of trance brotherhood music tapes. There are 4 well-known trance-music "brotherhoods" in Morocco - Gnawa, Aissawa, Hamadsha, and Jilala. I'm not sure exactly how widespread the Jilala are. I know they are found in the north, are quite popular around Casablanca, and can be found at least as far south as Marrakesh.

Jilala music is all about throb and rasp. Throb - the acceleration and decceleration within a song, the breathy organic timbre of the gasba flutes, the in-and-out-of-phase frequencies of the paired flutes. Rasp - flutes, voices, bendirs, all buzzy. This is music with a VIBE. The bendir patterns inhabit the 2/4 and 6/8 universes common across Morocco, but I find the drum stroke patterns particularly loopy and provocative.

I don't know where this group hails from. The j-card reads Al-farqa al-jilaliya, al-juz ath-thalith (The Jilaliya Group, vol. 3). I believe I got the tape in Casablanca around '01, but the tape company is based in Fez. Song titles are best guesses. Enjoy.

01) Moulay Amer - Moulay Idriss
02) Sidi Allal

03) Track 3
04) Lalla Malika
05) Moulay Abdelkader

Get it here.

BTW - don't confuse traditional Jilala music with the folk revival group Jil Jilala (whose name translates as Jilala Generation). Like Nass el Ghiwane (aka "New Dervish"), Jil Jilala chose their group name with a conscious reference to Moroccan trance traditions.
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54 comments:

  1. TTMarch 4, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    Thank you for these posts; been really enjoying these! Tamara

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  2. Mr TearMarch 5, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Beautiful! Many thanks for the continued excellence.

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  3. youngdougMarch 5, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    Thanks

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  4. tim abdellahMarch 5, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Glad you're enjoying this one! If you like the Jilala groove, I just ran across some very nice recent Jilala recordings here:

    http://zizmp3.com/Shab-Al-Hal---Mounawaates-Jilalia-2011-vol.1_712.html
    http://www.zizmp3.com/Shab-Al-Hal---Mounawaates-Jilalia-2011-vol.2_780.html

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  5. HammerMarch 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Thanks a lot Tim. You are the leet fleet, mang!

    More from that MP3-dispensing site?
    Jilaliyat - 2010 (Link: http://zizmp3.com/Jilaliyat-2010_688.html ).
    Note: Downloading from these Moroccan/Algerian music-sites is a bane! They're choke-ablock-full of ads and weird graphs, etc... *long pause* but, some would find extra-rare gems upped by the users there that are worth the chagrin. Still, I don't recommend using any of these sites as the music quality there is really-really nefarious. Same goes for any Arab music multi-thread chat forum/s (i.e. http://www.sama3y.net).

    Jilala/ Djilala music (or, جلالة, جيلاله,جلالا), comes from the sufi tradition of taqarub (meaningly; 'getting closer to the Creator with sound'), started allegedly by master Abdel-Qader Al-Jilani (born circa 1077 C.E., died in Iraq where his tomb is, around 1180 C.E.. His name's also spelled as Abdel-Ghader Al-Keylani). He's the founder of Al-Qadiryah Tarika ('Way'/'Path' or in Sanskrit 'Karika' as most of these sufists traveled to India to learn Yogacara Buddhism when the subcontinent was invaded by Muslim troops from 961-997 C.E.).

    Jil Jilala's name has nothing to do with this theosophical sect at all. Their name comes as a mockery of King Al-Hassan Al-Thani (Hassan II): an Alaouite who ruled the country with brim and fire-stone. Many Moroccans still recall the days of his fearful reign starting from 1961. The band's name was an anarchic crypto-message to those who had to say his name only with the title of 'Jal Jilala'; Glory Be His Majesty or get killed. There are other examples of this 'tyraname' from the Arab world, but I'd rather not get into these. (Syria? Hmm?).
    So, in a nutshell, it's Jeel Jilala (The Generation of His Majesty), and not Jilala as in the sufist sect, even when most of these so-called proto-gnawist bands (e.g. Lemchaheb, Nass El-Ghiwane, etc) had a strong religio-political backgrounds.

    H.H.

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  6. AnonymousMarch 6, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I'm trying to DL from the first links you posted, but no clue, prolly also b/c i don't speak french. any help would be appreciated -- what am i not seeing that i need to click on? b/c i'm happy to hear it streaming but i want to put it on the mp3player and get outta the house, since the speakers here suck and the ambiance is "domestic," as Uncle Jam would say.

    TIM is the dude & i don't think he'll mind me asking about some other blog on his comments. he's the one who is hosting the party, after all, and i'll bet he's happy that the guests are grooving

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    1. AnonymousMarch 6, 2012 at 9:26 PM

      hey, anyway i just got it -- down at the bottom, a little orange thing on the right side... i'll get the longest song from each, and give 'em a try...

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    2. AnonymousMarch 6, 2012 at 9:37 PM

      sheesh, no, i don't have it, actually.. the little purple (sorry) thing let me to TELECHARGER something that looks like the file but is just 300 bytes long... darn

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  7. HammerMarch 6, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    That's a pop-up link/box where one can download the song from, dear Anonymous. All you have to do is click on it after waiting for 10 seconds (there's a limit-rate of six songs at a time for parallel downloads).
    Note: The file size is so small because the quality is actually mediocre.

    Good luck!

    H.H.

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  8. HammerMarch 6, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    Guess we should start from the beginning again. You don't want to click the 'purple' box' because that's not where one should be downloading the MP3 files from. Wait till the pages fully downloads and then go through the tracks one by one... Clicking 'Tele' (it is a small box-link with a down-ward pointing arrow). After that, you'll get a pop-up window where you shall read "المرجوا الإنتضار" which also means "Please, wait". Now, counting patiently till 10 you'd get a "لتحميل الأغنية" scribbling ("to download the song"), and a grey/black box-link that you need to click on in order to finally get the MP3. It says above: Télécharger MP3 French for "Download the MP3".

    Dig.

    H.H.

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    1. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

      that's groovy, yeah, i was doing everything you said... the little tiny (it is purple) thing with the downward arrow, and that leads to the pop-up with the 10-second wait, and then again we click a little OWNLOAD box and then we get windows doing its thing, asking us where we want to save the file... but all it saves is something 300 bytes long, although its labeled like "_02_Jilala_hal" and seems like it should be the file, but its just a little ghost... ???
      THANKS FOR YOUR HELP, i think i'm probably just about there... you are very kind to help
      =)

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    2. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

      there is a red, larger rectangle up close to the top which also says TELECHARGER, but i found-out it only tries to let you DL some sort of media player or whatever...
      ;)

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    3. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

      Anytime.

      As for 'Thank you's'...
      I want to thank Tim Abdellah there for upping these 'One-derful' cassettes. It's a religion all its own. For this alone, and as we're talking 'bout Jil Jilala:
      I will up a double-header compilation link of 80+ songs by that great Moroccan band in two parts (it's too big for Mediafire to grab it in one bite-sized load). All songs were taken from http://sama3y.net.
      That's righto: Thanks Tim!

      H.H.

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    4. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

      i tried Explorer, maybe crhome was the problem, but still just 300 bytes???????????

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    5. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM

      Lol. You are going homeless 'ere, babe.
      'Neyways... I use FireFox for better control of any DLs. Do click on the download grey-black box (after the 10-sec count) and a small window that pops out should appear carrying the MP3 download to DL.

      Try 'gain maybes.

      *sighs*

      H.H.

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  9. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM

    http://www.mediafire.com/?cayqaard166p15j

    The first. Working on the sec right now.

    Dig.

    H.H.

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  10. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 1:30 AM

    cool, gonna enjoy that jil jilala, i've got a lot of songs from them but not 80, so there will for sure be some beautiful new ones to enjoy, thank you!

    so have you actually DL'd any of the tracks from the Shab Al Hal volume 2, or just other tracks from the site? I'm feeling like i'm going crazy b/c as i mentioned, the download appears to be working perfectly, but i don't get a working mp3 file?

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    1. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

      Nah, didn't DL that vol. Guess I'm more into earthier music, like gasba and Moroccan flute trances.

      Again, if you use these music-MP3 sites, then they're a bittle hellish to go 'round with. Nevertheless, it's piss-easy to DL from these sites.
      Here are the links to that volume No. 2 just in case:
      1.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2515.html
      2.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2511.html
      3.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2507.html
      4.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2513.html
      5.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2514.html
      6.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2516.html
      7.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2508.html
      8.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2510.html
      9.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2509.html
      10.) http://www.zizmp3.com/telecharger-mp3-2512.html
      *pants*
      Now, and this time with sugar, maple-syrup and cake sprinkles added on top...
      After the countdown, you should get a small black (okay, grey?), box that has the download pop-out window in it by jus' clicking right on it. If you don't get a pop-out window, then there must be summin' wrong with your pop-up blocker settings that blocks this feature (not on Chrome, though as it DLs everything by showing it in a download center below the webpage itself). Using FireFox is neato. But, you can suit yerself.
      If the whole snitch is about the MP3 file size itself, then... I guess you don't have the suitable default player that can play the file after finishing its download. All and all... Nothing is wrong with trial and error.

      H.H.

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  11. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    try again, mabes? can you fucking read? i've tried it a dozen times and from the very first time, your advice didn't even address the problem i was having. thanks for everything, and this is a reality check. its still a 323 byte file, even with firefox. since you are obviously a very nice person, please actually help a friend out instead of making fresh comments. i'll help you someday, if i haven't already. thank you.

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  12. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:12 AM

    can you please try the largest file of the shab hal v2 and tell me that it is an actual 36mb file, as promised, and not the shit that i'm getting? yes, i am clicking on the grey box, hammer dear...

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  13. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM

    from the top, last time:

    AnonymousMar 6, 2012 09:37 PM
    sheesh, no, i don't have it, actually.. the little purple (sorry) thing let me to TELECHARGER something that looks like the file but is just 300 bytes long... darn

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  14. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:22 AM

    i've got the links, and i'm getting the pop-out box, i've told you that 3 times... the promised file size is 36 mb but it comes out as 323 BYTES, have you been playing on computers since the 1980's, if you have then you know the difference between a byte and a megabyte...

    i also prefer the older stuff but haven't had time to peruse the other offerings. the jilala you mentioned in response to tim sounded like total shit, just from the preview..

    please recommend some older, better music, THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE DOWNLOADED and then if all i get is some little unworking ghost file, i know its me not you.

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  15. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    "trial and error?" Obnoxious. how about actually reading my question and helping me instead of a waste of time irrelevant response. it was all there in my very first question, but i was too polite (until now) to do any more than try to gently and slowly re-direct and focues your scattered attention. you look ridiculous, continuing to tell me the same thing when i've already told you THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING and, no, vlc-media player can't play something that is 323 bytes long. That is basically just a name and not a file.

    AnonymousMar 6, 2012 09:37 PM
    sheesh, no, i don't have it, actually.. the little purple (sorry) thing let me to TELECHARGER something that looks like the file but is just 300 bytes long... darn

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  16. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    Time to use the ignore button.

    *palms friction*

    ~_~

    H.H.

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  17. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:33 AM

    basically, you are an ass. you thought you were being helpful but you are so self-absorbed that you never even understood what i was asking. thanks for trying -- you mean well, you just can't concentrate. and you haven't been doing this long enough to know the difference between a byte and a megabyte. i'm obviously very interested in the file, or i wouldn't be wasting my time with such a rude and pompous "assistant." its obvious that you intend to ignore me, that's why you responded to tell me you were ignoring me, right?

    NOTHING FROM NOTHING IS NOTHING and it was all there in the very first question, which you still haven't even read, understood or TRIED FOR YOURSELF and see? thank you...

    AnonymousMar 6, 2012 09:37 PM
    sheesh, no, i don't have it, actually.. the little purple (sorry) thing let me to TELECHARGER something that looks like the file but is just 300 bytes long... darn

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  18. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:36 AM

    ...you probably have been jerking-off this whole time and quite distracted, that explains the whole thing...

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  19. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 2:39 AM

    ROFLMFAO.

    Ohlright babe... Let me give you this final nail, that or... go hump a cow down a dirty road offa ma viz, aite?

    Son, VLC sucks dogs' balls fer quarters. Download something else/better/working etc... How about WMP (Windows Media Player)?
    Give that a trial and hey sweet armpits! Do not flood this comment area with your sobathons as if you're a lost, wet and damp puppy left in the rain and dark.
    Do you pick what I'm droppin' here, sweet chile o'mine?

    Now, go. HURR-y!

    *auto-talk: whoa! Ma ma ma!*

    H.H.

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  20. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:49 AM

    don't get huffy, just recommend one that you yourself have downloaded, and i'm sure it will work. no windows media player can't play something 323 bytes long. do you know the difference between byte and megabyte? prior to the tele, we are told the file will be 36mb long (haven't i already said that) so can someone please give me some help? obviously it has not not yet been forthcoming, despite my patience and tact

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    1. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 2:54 AM

      Tact? Hmm... when you get a file this small instead of the original size, it must be that you're stream-downloading it 'stead of actually DL-ing it.
      TACT must be short for Tenacity At Creating Tension.
      There ya go. Now piss off.

      H.H.

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  21. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 2:55 AM

    tim, when you read and erase all of this worthless patter, would you please give a pointer on what i am doing wrong? thanks for the 2 links and they are fun to listen streaming, i may just have to be content with that.. and i wish HH would provide some of the links to the gasba and the older flute trance stuff, that would be great to listen to, older is usually better...
    =)

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  22. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 3:02 AM

    keep being provocative and then blame me for tension? i'm here to share music, not boast about how many times i've been around the block. i'm sorry i finally lost my patience with you, i should have seen through you from the start.

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    1. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 3:22 AM

      Whatever's whatever that rubs your teets the right way, hunnie dew.

      'Stream' it is then.

      *longest sigh* Dumb-ericunts are dumb! DERP.

      H.H.

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  23. HammerMarch 7, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    *Huffin'*
    Back to music:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?cayqaard166p15j Jil Jilala - Part I
    http://www.mediafire.com/?i9uonwe18j3tsh7 Jil Jilala - Part II

    Someone... pl0x, call the home-cleaners to scoop up that above rubble. All that ado for? Nothing indeed!

    Dig these two files with a shovel, babes.
    Will post them soon on ma awn blawg.

    Thanks Tim. Keep'em uppa, mang.

    H.H.

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  24. oroMarch 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Hello,
    I love your blog and I became a member. I also look toward new members on my blog:

    www.orogod.blogspot.com

    where you are welcome.
    Best regards,
    Oro

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  25. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    i hope someone who isn't too busy feeling superior and jeering my lack of expertise can actually help me with my original question about how to download. an intelligent and relevant answer, please, that doesn't just tell me to do what i've already done. thank you. and i'd still love some recommendations for finding on that same site the older type of music (flute trance especially reminds me of an old tape from Mr. Tear which I dearly love; or i don't even know what gasba is - i don't think so anyway- and would love to find-out.)

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  26. AnonymousMarch 7, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    btw i've donwloaded plenty of stuff from sites in every languages and located on every continent, with the iranian blogfa's being an especial favourite. i've never gotten this little tiny "streaming" file, ever, but always a working mp3... its not even a streaming thing, anyway, i don't believe so at least, b/c it still doesn't work, even if I am internet connected...

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  27. AnonymousMarch 8, 2012 at 7:37 AM

    http://theaudiotopia.blogspot.com/2012/03/jil-jilala_07.html

    ...in case you missed it, HH had plenty more to say...

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  28. tim abdellahMarch 8, 2012 at 7:49 AM

    The easiest way I found to download them is to use the Download Helper add-on in Firefox. Once you start to play a track in the embedded player, you have the option to download the mp3 via Download Helper without having to click through the annoying ads.

    I was also able to download tracks by clicking the purple download icon for individual tracks (located under the heading "Tele"). This opened 2 new windows, one of which makes you wait 10 seconds before it displays a "télécharger" (download) icon.

    Through both of these methods I was able to obtain nice quality (320kbps) mp3s, of 10-30MB in size. Sounds like some of you are having trouble with the second method. If you use Firefox, I recommend the Download Helper add-on. Very useful.

    @Hammer - yes, many of those mp3 sites are a headache. I thought it was worth passing along the Shab al Hal links because the recordings are of a very nice quality. Thanks also for the info on the name of the group Jil Jilala. I always assumed their name referred to the trance-music Jilala practitioners. But your explanation makes sense for the historical period. Looking forward to checking out your links!

    @Oro - hey, great to see you here! I've dug some sweet grooves over at your site in the past - will sign on. For those who haven't checked out www.orogod.blogspot.com, it's well worth a click!

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  29. HammerMarch 8, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Anytime bradah, and sawwey for cloggin' up yer comment box like it was a piece of bumf. Anonymous was a in a 'trance' I'm sure... nothing to do with Jilalis, ma main mayne.

    Much respect!

    H.H.

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  30. salaMarch 11, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Jilala du Fes. Driss el Messari et Abdelkader Ben Mouiha.

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  31. tim abdellahMarch 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Thank You, Sala!!

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  32. salaApril 4, 2015 at 8:17 AM

    It's volume 3 of Jilala of Fez.
    Driss El-Messari:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxISHBWofGM
    Abdelkader Ben Mouiha (to the right):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyE5xijPtrE

    __________________________________________________

    VOL. 1:
    http://www.bladi8.net/?p=artistes&smiya=Majmouat-Shab-El-Hal-2013&id=1662

    one that sings in this volume is on the right in this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W9Pz_4DV4A

    some pieces of vol. 2:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHTdTu9dkc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Tbvq8IuLY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8yiSF54cE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMZ_WjrSXYc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98QlktKnBc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBt3S-KPaqc

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  33. tim abdellahApril 5, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    Nice Links - Thanks Sala!

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  34. UnknownJune 24, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    The site zizmp3 was deleted. You can publish recordings "Shab Al Hal Mounawaates Jilalia vol.1 and vol.2, please??????

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  35. tim abdellahJune 25, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    @gagaa - check here: http://moroccantapestash.blogspot.com/2015/06/jilala-by-request-plus-recent-interweb.html

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  36. UnknownJune 25, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    @tim abdellah: thank you very much!!!!

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  37. UnknownJuly 8, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Do you know of which registration is part this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Tbvq8IuLY

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  38. AnonymousSeptember 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    http://fes13.com/singer/50-Firka-Jilalia.html

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    1. AnonymousJuly 10, 2016 at 6:26 AM

      Had link temha a 5oya, man sibch 3andek dok le registrazion li temhao?

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  39. tim abdellahSeptember 7, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    @Anonymous - cool, thx!
    @gagaaa - sorry I didn't check out that link earlier. Now it's dead.

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    1. AnonymousJuly 10, 2016 at 6:28 AM

      link dial sit fes13 temha a 5oya, man sibch 3andek dok le registrazion li temhao?

      https://youtu.be/y-Gg4dxCWvA

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  40. bol 110January 16, 2017 at 4:55 AM

    Chokran baza al jhot 3la had lkasita, chal o ana kan 9alab 3la chi haja bhal hadi, lil asaf daba l aktariya dial kasit o cd jdid dial jilala walao tahoma mbeddlin saot b dakchi l elektroni o dakchi, hadi kasita zwina bazaf. Hado Jilala dial fes, jilala kaynin bazaf f dokkala, f marrakech, sraghna, lhaouz o chamal, fi fes kaynin tlatat rba3at dial jilala, ana 3andi des audio o video dial jilala li b4a chi haja marhba.

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  41. AnonymousSeptember 8, 2017 at 11:32 AM

    Le registrazion deyal fes13.com Firka jilalia vol 1 temhao man sibhomch andak a khoya tim abdellah?

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